Herkimer County Snowmobile Trail & Trade Association (HCSTTA) Meeting Minutes

9-20-05 Minutes

2005-09-20T22:38:00.000-04:00

9-20-05 Minutes
HCST&TA Minutes of 9/20/05 meeting

Present:
Barry Staves Noel Lawrence
Mike Denapole Joe Polcaro
Kaye Wright Tom Meininger
Thursty McKusick Norm Scianna
Jeff Johnson Bob P.
Bill Weakley Pat Deyle

Meeting called to order by President Jeff Johnson 6:48 PM

Motion by Joe P. to accept minutes of last meeting as read

Financial report -
read by Pat D . motion to accept by Bill W. 2nd Mike Denapole

Old Business -
2005 raffle 1st prize Carson Merkle ( 4 wheeler from Moody’s)
2nd prize William Pierce ( $500)
Points were made about how effective the raffle was by Mike D. considering changes for next year and maybe eliminating it all together. Some discussion as to why the funds are needed since the primary purpose of the HCST&TA is to provide information to the clubs.

New Business -
Guest Heidi Pengratis came to speak about a map that her company is producing.

Jeff J. informed all that the NYS canal Corp. was having a meeting at 10 AM on Sept 29 at Hotel Utica and all interested should attend. He is concerned with the future of the trail from Little Falls to Utica and the use by snomobiles.

The Herkimer county board of tourism is producing an informational booklet and Joe P. made a motion to pay $100 to put all clubs in the booklet 2nd by Pat D. to pay .

Jeff J. wants to have a law enforcement seminar during one of the next meetings before it snows. People from the D.E.C. state police , and park police will be invited to speak about laws for snomobiles .

Magic Mike informed al that the state grooming seminar will be held on the 1st Saturday in January at the Salisbury clubhouse. Also the ride for missing children will be on February 20.

Jeff Johnson spoke of Zippy’s ride for kids and for all to send riders , info available at www.gregzippzdeli.com .

There will be a NYSSA signing seminar given by Dave Perkins at the Big East Snow Show in Syracuse which is from 9/30 – 10/2
There was also some talk of HCST&TA having a booth at the Big East next year.

NYSSA Report - Mike Denapole

Junction signs ordered and coming soon
SRRA passed
Effective Feb. 27, 55 mph speed limit & 14 year old age limit
Effective Sept ’06 two-tier system for registration
Clubs will be given a voucher to prove club membership

At next springs forum there will be a vote to define guidelines for a snow sled club including a minimum membership fee. These need to be changed by April to prevent outlaw clubs.

HCSTTA voted for a minimum single membership of $25

4-13-05 Minutes

2005-04-13T22:22:00.000-04:00

HCST&TA minutes of 4/13/05 meeting

Present Bob Shaver Kaye Wright
Mike Denapole Tom Labruzzo
Tom Lacomb Pat Deyle
Bill Weakley Norm Scianna
Warren Robinson Joe Polcaro
Thursty McKusick Don Roarke
Barry Staves Marty Bull
Jeff Johnson

Meeting called to order 07:05 PM

Motion-Jeff Johnson
Second-Thursty McKusick- to bypass reading of minutes from last meeting (none to read)

Financial report-
Pat Deyle received from Randy Freeman check for $2500 for maps

motion to move money from checking account to savings to increase interest earned during the summer and to accept financial report as read

Tom Lacomb second-BillWeakley

Old Business -
Pat Deyle to assemble committee for trail fund workshop Wed. July 27 at Ilion Snowdrifters Clubhouse, there was also discussion of a G.P.S. workshop on this date.
Raffle Tickets will be handed out along with a discussion of our activities at the Herkimer County Fair at a brief meeting before the workshop.
Mike Denapole will head this years raffle committee , which will include Thursty M. and Jeff J. they will make the final decision on amount and quantity of prizes . Tickets will be $10 ea.

New Business -
From Bill W.- the Ohio Sno-Bash will be Sept. 18th-19th
From Pat D. The state will provide secondary junction signs this year and he will order them for the clubs.
There was a discussion of getting more sign posts, as they are needed for fields and hillcrests.
Motion- Jeff Johnson
Second-Joe Polcaro – to purchase 1000 posts at $1.25 or better
From Pat Deyle-he has 911 signs and will hand them out
From Mike Denapole- we will have a G.P.S. workshop along with the trail fund workshop in July.
Motion-Jeff Johnson

Second-Joe Polcaro-to purchase one parks approved G.P.S. unit along with accessories and software for Herkimer County Clubs to use.

NYSSA Forum Report -
From Mike Denapole-there was a nearly unanimous vote for NYSSA support of the proposed 55 MPH speed limit.
Marty Bull- passing the 55 limit will aid in the passing of the SRRA II bill
There was also a vote of 147-40 not to pay NYSSA officers

Don Roark- will E-Mail the super raffle results NYSSA made $ 49,000.00 on the raffle.

Trail Funds - From Pat Deyle- paperwork for is due on May 31, get it to him before that , also any trail changes . 75% of high snow money is coming , Herkimer County has voucher for trail fund money.

A discussion to make S-46 from Ohio to Forestport a corridor trail, Tom L. from Ohio and Norm S. from Trackside are working on this proposal.
Discussion of County Rds. Being closed to sleds specifically North Lake Rd. We are attempting to reverse this ruling as not to set a president for this type of action.

Elections of officers

President- Jeff Johnson
Vice President- Joe Polcaro
Secretary- Norm Scianna
Treasurer - Pat Deyle
Motion- Thursty McKusick
Second- Bill Weakley- to accept slate of officers

9:05 PM
Motion – Jeff Johnson
Second – Joe Polcaro – to adjourn

3-9-05 minutes

2005-03-10T05:11:00.000-05:00

HCSTTA minutes of 3/09/05 meeting

Present Bob Shaver
Chuck Robinson
James Pidgeon
Bob Korosek
Kaye Wright
Norm Scianna
Barry Staves
Mike Denapole
Bill Weakley

Called to order 7:05 PM

Motion - Bill Weakley
Second - Chuck Robinson – to accept minutes from last meeting

Motion - Mike Denapole
Second - Chuck Robinson – to accept Treasurer’s report

Communications
Received the contract from the Herkimer County Fair for the August 16-21, 2005 Fair.
Motion - Bill Weakley
Second – Norm Scianna – to contract the same as last year – three spaces, skirting and 2 chairs for a total of $575.00
Forwarded to Pat Deyle for submitting.

Old Business
Mike Denapole to check on 911 signs from Jill Rae as some clubs still did not receive them.

No word from Pat Deyle regarding the secondary junction sign order.

NYSSA
Mike Denapole reports that registrations are approximately 8,000 less than last year which may affect this year’s funding.

Trail Funding
From Pat Deyle - 30% paperwork due in to Pat Deyle by April 15th. Make sure that the proper paperwork is used. Parks will not accept any other home made forms.
$50.00 per hour for class A groomers and $35.00 per hour for class B groomers. Do not include expenses in excess of your original grant dollars as you may be subject to a Parks audit.

You may include copies of receipts marked paid and a copies of canceled checks for all items or do it the easy way and use groomer hours as much as possible. You can include insurance, groomer payments, building payments, lease payments, phone bills, electric bills, gas & oil etc. but no food & beverage.

Large purchases of equipment and buildings may be depreciated over 7 years.

New Business

Next months meeting will be April 13th at BOCES and will be election of officers for the upcoming year. President Bob Shaver will not be running for office this time. If anyone is interested please advise Pat Deyle or attend this meeting.

Motion - Bill Weakley
Second - Chuck Robinson - Adjourn

2-9-05 minutes

2005-02-10T05:07:00.000-05:00

HCSTTA minutes of 2/9/05 meeting

Present Bob Shaver
Tom Lacomb
Bill Clary
Chuck Robinson
Thursty McKusic
Kaye Wright
Joe Polcaro
Barry Staves
Don Roark
Mike Denapole
Jim Murphy
Bill Weakley
Ron Haldasz
Bill Hajdasl
Evam Pearl
Steve Schanz
Bob Korosek
Marijo Thompson
Dean Jones

Called to order 7:00 PM

Motion – Joe Polcaro
to accept minutes as printed from last meeting

No Treasurers report

Committee Reports
Received a check from Moody’s for Herkimer County fair to conclude the raffle.

Last of the sign posts delivered to WASTA.

Mike Denapole to check with Jill Rae Signs regarding Canadarago’s signs they ordered.

NYSSA
Mike Denapole reports the 30% check totals may be affected by the lower number of snowmobiles registered this year as compared to last year. We are down between 20 and 30 thousand fewer registered sleds as of now.

Don Roarke has more NYSSA raffle tickets available.

Marty Bull gave report on Legislative items for this year. 2 tier system is dead for this year. Also discussed trail crossings of limited access highways. They need permission from the NYS DOT Regional Engineer.

Forum apps available. Bob Shaver to forward them via e mail.

New Business

Welcomed members from the Deerfield club as they will be looking to apply for the funding of their trails in Herkimer County.

Jim Thew from Thew Associates discussed his proposal for GPS and mapping of our trails.

To discuss the possibility of having a bus for the upcoming Forum in Auburn. Clubs are to see if any members are interested and we will decide next meeting.

Chuck Robinson requests any copy of any of the clubs bylaws.

Upcoming Events -

February 12 – Ride for Missing Children is still on rain or shine snow or little snow. For further info you can call 429-9628 or 429-9619.

February 11 – 13 - Ilion Snowdrifters will be hosting the Yamaha factory dealers show. The event will be dealers only on Friday and open to the public Sat & Sun.

Motion – Bill Clarey
Second – Tom Lacomb - Adjourn

1-12-05 minutes

2005-01-19T17:06:00.000-05:00

HCSTTA minutes of 1/12/05 meeting
Present: Bob Shaver, Pat Deyle, Bill Clary, Chuck Robinson, Kaye Wright, Joe Polcaro, Norm Scianna, Frank Boepple, Barry Staves, Don Roark, Steve Klem, Mike Denapole, Jim Murphy, Ron Williams, Bill Weakley, Jeff Crouse
Called to order 7:00 PM

Motion - Joe Polcaro, Second Steve Klem to accept minutes from last meeting
Motion - Frank Boepple, Second Bill Weakley to accept Treasurer's report

Committee Reports -

Mike Denapole reports that maps have been distributed and he has a few left for the clubs to distribute. Discussed next year's map which will be brought up at the September meeting.
Pat Deyle reports the raffle netted approx $3,300.00. We did not receive the $75.00 from two dealers for the Herkimer County Fair Booth. Frank Boepple to contact the Polaris dealer regarding this.

Old Business

Motion - Brad Smith, Second Steve Klem to pay $25.00 Dues to the American Council of Snowmobiling Assoc.
Motion - Bill Weakley, Second Joe Polcaro regarding correspondence from the Thew Associates PLLC to table the purchase of a GPS and obtain a quote to GPS Herkimer County trails.
Motion - Joe Polcaro, Second Bill Weakley to purchase the necessary trail junction signs from Voss.

NYSSA

Mike Denapole reports the January NYSSA meeting will be this Saturday. Don Roarke requests any NYSSA raffle tickets be turned in as the Bonus drawing will be this Saturday.

Trail Funding

Pat Deyle to send a correspondence from HCSTTA to Bernadette Castro of Parks & Rec regarding the delay in receiving 70% funding. The voucher was returned to the State Comptrollers office in December.
Clubs are reminded for their paper work that the State minimum wage increased January 1st.
Long Pond and Deerfield to request funding for their trails starting next year. Long Pond will receive "High Snow" monies this year.

New Business

Motion - Frank Boepple, Second Joe Polcaro to pay Mike Denapole's submitted expenses for NYSSA activities
Discussed having a Club Officer's Workshop in conjunction with the Trail Fund workshop held in July. We will invite Jim Jennings to attend.
All clubs are requested to send in their NYSSA memberships on a monthly basis to avoid the Spring Rush.

Upcoming Events - January 22 Ohio Poker Run, February 12 Ride for Missing Children
Motion Joe PolcaroSecond Steve Klem - Adjourn

12-8-04 minutes

2004-12-08T15:06:00.000-05:00

HCSTTA minutes of 12/8/04 meeting

Present

Bob Shaver
Marty Bull
Bill Clary
Chuck Robinson
Kaye Wright
Travis Dyn
Joe Polcaro
Barry Staves
Don Roark
Steve Klem
Jeff Johnson
Mike Denapole
Jim Murphy
Dean Jones
Bill Weakley

Called to order 7:00 PM

Motion - Marty Bull
Second – Bill Weakley – to accept minutes from last meeting as printed

Treasurer’s report - N/A

Request by Don Roark for Treasurer’s report. Bob Shaver to have Pat Deyle e mail a report when he will not be available for the meeting.

Received dues from Ohio, West Canada and Trackside

Old Business
Motion - Mike Denapole
Second – Bill Weakley – to purchase 1 GPS unit at a cost not to exceed $1,000. GPS unit to meet the specifications to be determined by Dave Perkins. Marty Bull to make arrangements for purchase.

Mike Denapole reports the map has been sent to printer. Maps to be distributed no later than the next meeting. If they are available sooner we will make arrangements to get them out.

Chuck Robinson reports 100 posts remaining. Exeter and Ilion requests to purchase 50 each at cost.

Much discussion regarding junction sign requirements. All clubs are reminded that Corridor to Corridor junctions must be signed with the signs provided by Parks and to the specifications set in the signing manual. Any clubs can contact Dave Perkins for a copy of the manual.

Pat Deyle will be contacted regarding assigning intersection numbers for the remaining intersections and forward this information to Dave Perkins.

Steve Klem will contact John Karker regarding Otsego County.

When the information is completed we will discuss coordinating the purchase of the applicable signs.

NYSSA -
Marty Bull advises a vacancy exists for NYSSA delegate at large. If anyone is interested in running for the position at the next Forum they can contact Marty.

Don Roarke reported on the NYSSA raffle. He has tickets available. Tickets sold by the clubs will retain 50% of the $5 purchase price.

Mike Denapole requests that clubs submit membership lists and dues in a timely manner.

NYSSA has set January 22nd Club membership day. Clubs are encouraged to host a membership drive on the trails as they did last year.

Clubs should check the NYSSA web site club listings. If they are not on it or the information is incorrect, let them know.

HCSTTA dues to NYSSA are now due.

New Business –

Ohio Ridgeriders are looking for a grant writer to assist them with submitting grant requests.

TV2 Sportscaster Rich Lupia has requested trail reports for his telecast. All clubs are asked to submit a report to Rich via Email. Jeff Johnson will get the details along with an Email address.

Motion - Jeff Johnson
Second – Steve Klem – to have a 70% get together when the checks are ready to distribute.

Upcoming Events -

January 7-8 – Groomer Show and Seminar at Salisbury – Contact Majic Mike

January 21-22 – NASCAR ride for kids in Old Forge. $250 reg fee. Contact J Johnson for details

All clubs are encouraged to send their events to Ted Koz for posting on the County web site. Also events can be placed in the NYSSA magazine but they require 2 month lead time.

Motion – Bill Weakley
Second – Marty Bull - Adjourn

11-10-04 Minutes

2004-11-11T15:03:00.000-05:00

HCSTTA Minutes of November 10, 2004 Meeting

Called to order 7:00 PM with the following members present:

Bob Shaver
Bill Weakley
Bill Cleary
Mike Denapole
Jim Murphy
Barry Stave
Warren Robinson
Marty Bull
Joe Polcaro
Norm Scianna
Steve Schanz
Steve Klem
Kaye Wright

Motion – Joe Polcaro
Second – Bill Weakley - to accept minutes of last meeting as printed

No Treasures report

Chuck Robinson advises we have 200 posts remaining from the last order. Please contact Chuck if you need more.

Much discussion regarding Otsego County and the trail map. There is an independent person selling ads for an Otsego County map. He has been selling ads within Herkimer County.

Members from the Otsego County clubs will bring back information at the March meeting regarding a trail map for their area.

Marty Bull gave the NYSSA report.
- within the next 2 years all clubs funded trails will require GPS. Marty suggests the County purchase 1 or 2 GPS units of their own at a cost of up to $500 each. This was tabled for further discussion.
- NYSSA working on standardizing the method to retrieve taxes from fuel purchases.
- NYSSA web site has a “Landowners Boucher” that will have landowners info. All clubs should review this section.
- PAC monies spent will be reported in the future to members.

Motion – Steve Klem
Second – Joe Polcaro – to raise the County Dues to $100 per year

Motion – Steve Klem
Second – Joe Polcaro – to adjourn

Next Meeting – Wednesday December 8, 2004 7:00 PM at the Herkimer County BOCES

9-14-04 minutes

2004-09-14T15:52:00.000-04:00

HCSTTA minutes of 9-14-04 meeting

Called to order with the following present:
Joe Pocaro
Jeff Johnson
Jim Murphy
Don Roark
Brad Smith
Chuck Robinson
Jesse Davis
Bill Clary
Charlie McKusick
Barry Staves
Mike Denapole
Ted Kozenewski

No minutes from the last meeting

Treasurer’s report - N/A

Fundraiser Raffle - Bowen's Powersports will let us use a four wheeler for the booth and Moody's will get us a sled. We need help to man the booth. Ticket sales are ok but we need to get them all sold(300 need to be sold to break even).

Trail Insurance Update - We have a new company thru the Cool Agency this year called Great American Assurance Company. They are an admitted carried in NYS. The policy for this year has no deductable and the premium is $100,000 less than last year. The cost for the clubs will be about $84 per mile. The total policy for the state is $840,000. Only one claim was paid out last year and it was an intoxicated groomer operator hitting a car.

Trail Inspection Progam - NYSSA has started an inspection program and Dave Perkins will be managing it. The inspectors will be volunteers. The training courses have started, if anyone is interested go to the NYSSA site for more info.

Map Update - Mike Denapole has been contacted by Randy Freeman about getting started on the map. Chip Kiefer will be getting us $2500 of I Love NY money to go towards the map. We also talked about printing a yearly map.

911 Signs - some clubs are having a hard time getting assigned addresses for the road crossings. There was a discussion on how we could get some help and how other clubs had done it.

Sign Posts - the posts are done and Chuck Robinson has them at his house. Each club is entitled to 50 so let Chuck know when you will be picking them up.

Adirondack Snowmobile Plan - Don Roark gave us an update on the plan.

Adirondack Citizens Council - Don Roark gave a presentation on this new group. You can view more info at www.adirondackcitizenscouncil.com A motion was made by Jesse Davis and seconded by Joe Polcaro to join this group at a cost of $250.

Meeting Adjourned

5-12-04 Minutes

2004-05-12T18:36:00.000-04:00

HCSTTA
Minutes of May 12th 2004 Meeting

Called to order 7:15 PM with the following members present:

                                                Bob Shaver
                                                Pat Deyle
                                                Marty Bull
                                                Frank Boepple
                                                Ruth Boepple
                                                Joe Polcaro
                                                Rod Smith
                                                Norm Scianna

Motion – Rod Smith
Second – Joe Polcaro - to accept minutes of last meeting as printed

Motion – Marty Bull
Second – Frank Boepple – to accept Treasures report

Marty Bull gave NYSSA report. Registration increase is on hold due to budget. Considering a 2 tiered system for multiple sleds.

Marty Bull has been elected as Representative at Large to NYSSA leaving the Alternate Director for our area open. Pat Deyle to send email. Anyone interested contact Pat.

Motion – Marty Bull
Second – Pat Deyle – to not donate to ISIA at this time.

Motion – Frank Boepple
Second – Joe Polcaro – to have another Law Enforcement night for our November meeting. We will be                            checking with Jesse Davis to arrange this again this year.

Motion – Pat Deyle
Second – Joe Polcaro – To award the map printing to Randy Freeman.

Trail Fund Workshop to be held July at the Ilion Fish & Game. Date to be determined.

Motion – Frank BoeppleSecond – Marty Bull – to adjourn

4-8-04 minutes

2004-04-08T17:08:00.000-04:00

HCSTTA minutes of 04/08/04 meeting

Present Bob Shaver, Pat Deyle, Tom Lacomb, Bill Clary, Chuck Robinson, Thursty McKusick, Mike Denapole, Frank Boepple, Ruth Boepple, Marty Bull, Joe Polcaro, Norm Scianna, Jim Murphy, Dean Jones

Called to order 7:05 PM

Reading of minutes from last meeting Motion - Pat Deyle Second - Frank Boepple - to accept minutes as read

Treasurers report Motion to accept - Mike Denapole Second - Marty Bull

Mike Denapole & Marty Bull gave NYSSA report including:

- Spring raffle - included 4 winners from our area

- Report on last weeks NYSSA forum

- Clubs must report all accidents that they are aware of occurring on their trails to NYSSA as soon as possible.

Discussed S46 trail with Joe Polcaro and Norm Scianna of the Trackside Blazers. They agreed to clear out the fallen trees in the trail for next year’s season. Also to check with DEC regarding trail improvements.

Pat Deyle explained the trail funding paperwork and the topo map. The 70% check will be received by November 3rd.

The Trail Fund Workshop has been scheduled for Tuesday July 13th 7:00 PM at the Ilion Snowdrifters clubhouse.

Motion - Tom Lacomb Second Thursty McKusick - to appoint Mike Denapole Director and Marty Bull Alternate Directors to NYSSA

Motion - Frank Boepple Second - Marty Bull - to have Chuck Robinson order 600 more sign posts @ $1.25 ea. 100 posts will go to West Canada as we missed them on the last order. We will store them at Chuck Robinson’s and distribute them this fall. Clubs will be responsible for painting the posts this time around.

Motion - Marty Bull Second - Chuck Robinson - to continue the 911 sign program. We will pay for 20 more signs for each club. Clubs may also order extra signs at the cost of $10 each. Mike Denapole will coordinate the program again this year.

Motion - Tom Lacomb Second - Frank Boepple - To elect the same Officers for 2004 - 2005 year.

President - Bob Shaver

Vice President - Jeff Johnson

Secretary - Ted Koznewski

Treasurer - Pat Deyle

Mike Denapole will get prices from a couple of vendors for selling and printing of the County map. He will bring back the information the for May meeting. We must make our decision then so the map can be ready for the next riding season.

Motion - Chuck Robinson Second - Mike Denapole - Adjourn

3-15-04 minutes

2004-03-15T17:07:00.000-05:00

HCSTTA minutes of 03/15/04 meeting

Present - Bob Shaver, Pat Deyle, Tom Lacomb, Bill Clary, Chuck Robinson, Thursty McKusick, Lynda Wratten, Jeff Crouse, John Dyn, Mike Denapole, Jesse Davis, Don Roark

Called to order 7:10 PM

Reading of minutes from last meeting - N/A

Treasurers report: Dues not paid for 2003-04 Long Pond, Salisbury & West Canada

Motion to accept - John Dyn Second - Chuck Robinson

Pat Deyle distributed paperwork to each club regarding trail mileage reimbursement. Included a map of all trails in Herkimer County. Clubs are to review map and make corrections. Pat to get topo maps for the clubs to draw the trails on for submission. Contact Pat Deyle if you did not get this package.

All clubs must get this paperwork back to Pat by the middle of April so he can put it all together to submit by the May 31st deadline.

Mike Denapole gave NYSSA report including the letter writing campaign to our representatives supporting the pending legislation to raise registrations.

NYSSA Forum will be the first weekend in April in Auburn. All are encouraged to attend.

All clubs must have their NYSSA memberships submitted prior to the Forum.

Much discussion followed regarding the Adirondack Master Plan hearings. Don Roark to keep us posted on the progress.

Old Business

911 signs are being completed. 264 signs were ordered for a total of $2,640.00.

Motion: Tom Lacomb Second: Jesse Davis To pay entire bill and collect from the individual clubs who ordered extra signs upon delivery.

John Spanfeller from the Herkimer County 911 is responsible for assigning 911 numbers. He may be contacted on Mondays 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM to schedule a time with him.

All but West Canada has picked up their sign posts.

Jesse Davis reported on the Ride for Missing and Exploited Children. The ride was a huge success raising over $36,000.00 for our local chapter. Also the tee shirts are now available. Contact your local club to pick up a shirt if you are owed one. Any problems contact Jesse Davis.

Discussed our annual raffle. The raffle will be the same as last year except we will be soliciting HCSTTA business memberships prior to the raffle so the businesses can be included on the tickets and posters.

Bob Shaver will have a membership packet for each club at the April meeting to assist them with selling the memberships.

It was decided to offer the following business memberships:

HCSTTA - $25 HCSTTA & NYSSA - $75 HCSTTA, NYSSA and each member club of HCSTTA - $200

Each membership will include them on the HCSTTA raffle tickets, posters and each respective organizations web sites. Each business will receive a framed membership certificate.

Motion - Bill Clary Second - Thursty McKusick to adjourn

2-11-04 minutes

2004-02-11T17:04:00.000-05:00

Minutes from the February 11, 2004 meeting

Members present - Chuck Robinson, Rod Smith, Bill Clary, Tom LaComb, Bill Weakley, Mike Denapole, Bob Shaver, Kaye Wright, Pat Deyle, Don Roark, Brad Smith, Steve Klem, Steve Schanz, Frank & Ruth Boepple, Jeff Johnson, Ron Davies, Len Mosher, Jesse Davis, Murph, Chick Perry (Evening Telegram), Don Paparella (LF Evening Times).

Last Meeting minutes accepted as read. Bill Weakley, 2nd Tom LaComb,

Treasurers report Checking balance $5919.57 Savings balance $7806.76 Total of both accounts $13726.33. Motion to accept by Steve Klem 2nd Mike Denapole. Motion was made to pay our NYSSA dues ($40.00) by Steve Klem, 2nd Brad Smith.

As of tonight the following clubs haven't paid their dues to HCSTTA - E. Herkimer, Salisbury, Brantingham, BRASS & Trackside.

911 Signs - They are being processed now. Jill Rae is in the process of finishing them up and should be done shortly. Discussion followed on the importance of the signs.

Sign Posts are painted and ready to be picked up

Trail Grant Paperwork - May 31 is the deadline. We will try to get Dave Perkins to attend the next meeting to explain the new trail grant paperwork.

Trail mileage - discussed the "proper" way to measure your trail mileage. Either by snowmobile odometer or gps

Discussed the Adirondack Park Plan

Brief discussion on the registration increase.

Missing Children's Ride - Jesse Davis said there has been a tremendous response to this years ride. The 1st estimatefor riders is about 500. Motion by Jeff J. for HCSTTA to donate $500 to the Ride as well as donate $300 to Easter Seals. 2nd by Brad Smith.

Brief discussion on our trail map for next season. Will get more info for the next meeting.

Senator Seward arrived at 7:30pm. He spoke on the importance of snowmobiling to the upstate economy. Don Roark presented him with the William Sears Award from NYSSA.

Meeting adjourned @ 9:10 pm

12-10-03 minutes

2003-12-10T17:00:00.000-05:00

Minutes from the December 10, 2003 meeting

Members present: Bob Shaver, Pat Deyle, Marty Bull, Steve Klem, Frank
Boepple, Ruth Boepple, Mike Denapole, Bill Weakley, Jesse Davis & Chuck
Robinson.

No minutes from last meeting

Motion - Steve Klem
Second - Frank Boepple - to accept treasurers report

Chuck Robinson reports he will pick up the sign posts Friday afternoon and
will deliver them to the Ilion Clubhouse. Pat Deyle will arrange for the Boy
Scouts to paint them. He will advise us when they can start so we can have a
few volunteers to assist.

Motion - Mike Denapole
Second - Steve Klem - to spend up to $2,000.00 for making of the 911 signs.
The Association will pay for the first 20 signs at $10 each for each of the
member clubs. Each club will then be responsible for any signs in excess of
20. The Association will redistribute any of the unused funds. All clubs are
to contact Mike Denapole as soon as possible with their order (preferably by
the first week of January). Contact Magic if you have any questions. We will
try to do this again next year as not all clubs will be able to do them all
at once.

To allow Magic to get an order in as soon as possible and with getting the
actual 911 address taking some time just give him the road name and we can
add the numerics at a later date.

Mike Denapole gave the NYSSA report.

- NYSSA has paid the insurance premium so we now have trail
coverage. Also the landowners lists are due in ASAP. Jim Jennings advised
that landowners will be covered if the trail is on their land and their name
was not on the list or if there was a change in ownership.

- Marty Bull will be contacting each club membership regarding solicitation
of donations for political considerations.

- Mike Denapole reported on the ride to raise funds for breast cancer that
will pass through our area including a stop at Ridgerunners.

Pat Deyle reported on snowmobile crossing signs on County roads. He was
advised by Ray Smith that the Legislators need to pass a law to do this. Ray
states that he will introduce this law.

Jesse Davis reported on the Ride for Missing & Exploited Children. We need
riders. All clubs are encouraged to participate and bring their banners.

Clubs are encouraged to contact Ted Koz regarding their upcoming events and
fund raisers. He will put them on our web site calendar.

Upcoming events:

- East Herkimer - Youth Safety Course Dec 13th at the East Herkimer VFD.

- Canadarago - Youth safety Course January 17th at the Richfield School

- Ohio - Poker Run January 17th

- Exeter - Poker Run January 17th

- Ilion Spaghetti Dinner January 17th & Pancake Breakfast January 18th both
at the Brookside.

- Salisbury - Poker Run February 6th & 7th

Motion - Bill Weakley
Second - Steve Klem - Adjourn

11-12-03

2003-11-12T16:58:00.000-05:00

Minutes from the November 12, 2003 meeting

The following were present - Ted Kozenewski (Ilion), Ed Jones (WASTA), Earl S. (WASTA), Marty Bull (WASTA), Mike Denapole (Salisbury), Arnold Schrader (E.Herkimer), Wayne Hartman (E.Herkimer), Bill Weakley (Ohio), Tom LaComb (Ohio), Bill Clary (Ohio), Bob Shaver (E.Herkimer), Lennny Mosher (ShuMaker), Brad Smith, Steve Klem, Steve Schanz (all from Canadarago), Chuck Robinson (Exeter), Jim Murphy (W.Canada). Also in attendance were the following law enforcement officers - Sgt. Jack Adams/NYS Park Police, Sgt. Mark Phillips/NYS Police, Trooper Tom Costello/NYS Police, Herkimer County Sheriff Chris Farber, Lt. Matt Jacoby/NYS Encon Law Enforcement Division, Lt. John Allen/Oneida County Sheriff's Dept., Rick Hart/ Herkimer Co. Sheriff's Dept.

Meeting was called to order at 7:15pm by President Bob Shaver

Last meeting minutes were accepted motion made by Marty Bull, 2nd by Bill Weakley.

Treasurers Report - none as Pat is out of town.

This meeting was our Law Enforcement Night.

All the law enforcement representatives on the above list spoke about their role in enforcing the various rules & regulation involving snowmobiling. All stressed that they will be enforcing registration, insurance, loud exhaust, DWI and DUI of drugs. They reminded us that the legal limit for alcohol has been lowered from .1 to .08, this applies to snowmobiling. They also spoke on the new courtesy inspection program where you would get your sled inspected and if the sled is in compliance with the regulations you would be issued a sticker. This could possibly make it easier when you come to a police checkpoint. It was also said that the stickers wouldn't automatically prevent you from being stopped. All of the representatives(except the Oneida County Sheriff) said that they were going to have more patrols etc. in Herkimer County this year.

After a short break we had our normal meeting. The following is what was discussed.

- Otsego County requests being included in next year's map. They have some county funds available. Turned over to Mike Denapole.

- Otesego County clubs have now received their 30% checks.

- Motion - Steve Klem
Second - Brad Smith - to purchase 500 posts for $1.25 each. This will allot up to 50 posts per each member club. If any club wishes to purchase more than that contact Chuck Robinson and it can be added to the order. We will be getting help painting them from a couple of local Boy Scout Troops.

- Discussed 911 signs. All clubs are asked to calculate how many signs the would need at 2 signs per road crossing and bring back to the next meeting or forward to Bob Shaver.

- Discussed Business memberships. All member clubs are asked to try to sell business memberships for HCSTTA at a cost of $25.00. This will get them a framed certificate, placed on our website and advertised on the posters and tickets for next year's fund raiser. Members are also encouraged to offer NYSSA business memberships. Contact Mike Denapole for details.

- NYSSA report given by Marty Bull.
- Update on trail insurance
- Complete list of landowners must be sent to Jim Jennings ASAP
- New contact person for Nimo name & # will be forwarded shortly
- Statewide NYSSA membership drive will be January 17th - all clubs are invited to participate

Motion - Bill Clary
Second - Tom Lacomb - to adjourn

10-15-03 minutes

2003-10-15T16:56:00.000-04:00

Minutes from the October meeting

HCSTTA minutes of 10/15/03 meeting

Present Bob Shaver
Marty Bull
Pat Deyle
Tom Lacomb
Bill Clary
Chuck Robinson
Frank Boepple
Ruth Boepple

Called to order 7:20 PM

Reading of minutes from last meeting - N/A

Treasurers report: Rcv*d check from Randy Freeman Motion to accept - Tom Lacomb
Second - Frank Boepple

Raffle report: 1,204 tickets sold less prizes and expenses left $3381.00 for clubs and $2515.00 for the Association.
Discussed possible changes for next years raffle. 2004 raffle to be discussed at the March meeting to have set by the May meeting.

Motion - Tom Lacomb
Second - Bill Clary to $50 Mike Denapole & Mary Farber and $50 to Marty and Theresa Leigh for selling the most tickets

All members are asked to sell business memberships for HCSTTA at a cost of $25
which will include a certificate, listing on our web site and listing on the next fund raiser raffle tickets and posters. Bob Shaver has old posters and tickets available for you to use as examples when soliciting. We will be getting together with Mike Denapole to add NYSSA business memberships.

Discussed Club Membership fees to HCSTTA and decided leave them the same this year. $30

NYSSA report by Marty Bull

NYSSA has decided to purchase statewide trail insurance from Lexington Ins. Co. thru the Cool Agency. Premiums to be paid from the trail fund and will cover all funded and non funded trails of member clubs. Much discussion followed.

The Snowmobile Act will continue into 2004. The Assembly wants to remove the registration fee raise and put into the Governors Budget Bill relieving them from being responsible for raising fees. To be continued.
Marty presented a new training tape to use with the snowmobile safety classes. Pat Deyle will have copies made. If he doesn*t send you a copy feel free to contact him and he will make sure you get one.

The new Trail Inspection program should be utilized this year. Trail Coordinators will handle details.

Chuck Robinson & Frank Boepple to get prices for rough cut sign posts. We have a couple of Boy Scout Troops lined up to paint them for Community Projects.

Next months meeting will be a Law Enforcement Night. Representatives from the various agency will be invited to attend. Please contact Jesse Davis if you have any ideas or comments regarding this.

Frank Boepple will look into the *trail dot* program and bring it back to next months meeting. This is a sticker that is applied to each sled that passes a law enforcement check. This will save time for both the officers and riders both.

Motion - Bill Clary
Second - tom Lacomb - Adjourn

June 2003 minutes

2003-06-13T15:58:00.000-04:00

Minutes from the June Meeting

We met last Thursday at Cangee's in East Herkimer with the following members present:
Bob Shaver, President
Jeff Johnson, Vice President
Pat Deyle, Treasurer
Mike Denapole, NYSSA District Director
Bill Weakley, Ohio
Tom Lacomb, Ohio
Frank Beopple, Salisbury
Ruth Boepple, Salisbury

The 30% checks were distributed. Pat Deyle advises that the deadline for changes and additions of trails for funding will be June 30th. Contact Pat regarding this.

The trail fund workshop will be held Thursday July 24th at 7:00 PM. at the Ilion Fish & Game Club. Contact Pat or Ted K if you need directions.

The annual raffle will be much the same as last year. $10 tickets with $3 going to the sponsoring club. It was decided to up the cash payout to $4,000 up from $3,500. Tickets and posters will be distributed at the trail fund workshop.

We will also be manning a booth at the Herkimer County Fair again this year. Aug. 12th thru the 17th. Contact Jeff Johnson to schedule times for working.

Our projects this year will include assistance with the purchase of 911 signs for member clubs, destination signs (possibly a larger size this time) and supplying 8' hardwood posts for trail signs. We hope to include one of our local Boy Scout Troop for their needed community service commitment to paint the posts blaze orange.

Hope to see everyone at the workshop in July.

Bob Shaver
President HCSTTA

3-12-03 minutes

2003-03-12T15:54:00.000-05:00

Minutes from HCSTTA meeting - Herkimer County BOCES 3-12-03

Members present - Lenny Mosher, Bill Clary, Frank & Ruth Boepple, Ted Kozenewski, Bob Shaver, Pat Deyle, Mike Denapole, Jesse Davis, Chuck Robinson, Steve Klem, Marty Bull and Dick Guido.

Meeting called to order by VP Bob Shaver at 7:10 pm.

Motion to accept the minutes as written by Jesse Davis , 2nd by Steve Klem.

Treasurers Report - Pat handed out the financial sheet and explained our finances. Our checkbook balance is $971.21, our savings balance is $6581.94 giving us a total net worth of $7553.15. Motion to accept the Treasurers report made by Steve Klem, 2nd by Frank Boepple.

Committee Reports -

HCSTTA Shirts - Lenny reported that he has contacted Graphtex in Utica about doing the shirts. We decided to get prices on getting the NYSSA logo and the HCSTTA logo on the front for 20 to 25 shirts. He was going to get prices on a denim shirt and a polo style shirt. Lenny will report back with his findings.

HCCC Trailhead - it's a dead issue for this year due to landowner problems. It is still being worked on and hopefully all the problems will be worked out and it will be ready for next season.

Law Enforcement - a brief discussion was held on the various law enforcement that has been out on our trails this season. It has been good to see and hopefully it will continue next season.

NYSSA Update - Marty gave us an update of the new (proposed) laws that NYSSA is going to try to get passed for next year. Here they are -

Snowmobile Legislation Ideas or an Omnibus Snowmobile Bill

1. Alcohol and Drug DWI (Driving While Impaired) We would like to see this changed to have people ticketed and found guilty of DWI while operating a snowmobile have this directly effect their automobile drivers license.
2. Speed Limits. We would like to see a maximum speed limit on trails of 55 MPH, with strong emphases on reasonable and prudent speeds for trails where 55 MPH is to fast for conditions for that type of trail. This I know is very subjective. Again this would also affect the operator’s driver’s license with points for speeding.
3. Assumed Risk. We would like to see as part of the law that snowmobilers have assumed the risk of danger while operating a snowmobile in the State of New York. This needs to be similar to that of the Ski Areas of New York State. People know that they are operating a dangerous piece of machinery on trails that the conditions change by the minute, hour and day.
4. Trail Fund Fees. We would like to see Parks and Recreation set the trail fund fees for each year and not the legislature. These moneys would go into a fund for distribution to the agencies that are handing out the trail funds to the clubs. This would take the legislature out of the worries of who was responsible for the increases in trail fund fee.
5. Registration. Have the DMV change to a 3 year registration fee ($15.00) for snowmobiles and Parks and Recreation set up an annual trail fund pass to be issued to all snowmobilers operating on trails in the state of New York. They could be sold like hunting and fishing license are in NY now, at retail location throughout the state. This would make much easier to have out of state riders buy trail passes. It would cut the cost of DMV. We would like to see the trail fund fees set at some where between $50 and $75 per sled per year like other states and provinces have done in New England and Eastern Canada.
6. Insurance. You must show proof of liability insurance when purchasing your trail permit for the year. We recommend a minimum of $100,000 liability insurance at this time.
7. Change the General Obligations Laws to allow a non profit 501 C corporation from the state of New York, to charge a fee for services on property without the landowner becoming liable for damages from any accidents on the property as long as the landowner does not receive any compensation for the use of their land.
8. Age limits. It is time to change the laws governing the operational age limits of snowmobiles. Right now it is 10 years old with a training course certificate. That is way too young for a child to operate any sled. There should be more guidelines for the operation of snowmobiles by minors. Parents or Guardian must be present and limitations to horse power. There also should be limits to times of day children would be allow to operate a snowmobile, for example, maybe daylight hours only.
9. Law Enforcement. We feel that increases in the money for trail funds should also reflect and increase in the amount of money for law enforcement.
10. Standardize Safety requirements for the state. We feel the State should set standards for all snowmobile related safety signs. They should meet the international requirements for snowmobile signs, in size and color. That way we are consistent throughout the state and the world. There should be steep penalties for stealing or destroying any snowmobile safety sign. The state should set minimum standards for bridges, trails and marking safety sign location requirements for all hazardous locations on the trails.
11. Mandatory Snowmobile Club membership. We would like to see each Trail Fund Pass purchaser assign a club or NYSSA as their information center for snowmobiling in NY. Personally I would prefer NYSSA take that responsibility on, but clubs that have a good recorded of informing their members could also do a good job at this. There are some clubs with no news letters and no meetings.
12. Landowner should receive a property tax break for having trails on their property.
13. Require all new snowmobiles sold in NY State to have mirrors on them and all snowmobiles by the year 2008 have mirrors on them.

Mike Denapole also briefed us on the upcoming NYSSA Forum April 12th in Batavia.

Missing Children's Ride - Jesse gave us a brief overview of what went on at the ride. About 200 riders participated and close to $13,000.00 was raised.

New Business

- Paperwork for the 30% check needs to be in to Pat Deyle no later than April 15th. Also clubs in the "high snow" areas need to get the trail number and mileage of that trail to Pat.

- East Herkimer Sno Riders are considering taking over the trail from Kast Bridge to the Frankfort Bridge. It is still in the planning stages.

- Election Of Officers Next Meeting - Pat Deyle is heading the nominating committee, if anyone is interested in running for any office contact him at 894-4652 or cpat4par@ntcnet.com

Upcoming Events - April 12 Ilion Snowdrifters Annual Landowner's Appreciation Banquet, April 26 Salisbury Ridgerunners Landowner's Banquet.

8:59pm Motion by Lenny to close the meeting, 2nd by Bill Clary.

Next Meeting is April 9th

2-12-03 minutes

2003-02-12T15:53:00.000-05:00

Minutes of Feb 12, 2003 Meeting

Called to order 7:15 PM with the following members present:

Bob Shaver, Bill Weakley, Jeff Johnson, Pat Deyle, Mike Denapole, Jim Murphy, Jesse Davis

Motion – Pat Deyle

Second – Jesse Davis - to accept minutes of last meeting as printed

Motion – Bill Weakley

Second – Jesse Davis – to accept Treasures report

Trail signs have arrived and are being disbursed by Jeff Johnson

Motion – Pat Deyle

Second – Mike Denapole – to do another order of signs next year.

We will solicit the clubs in October for the next order and discuss the specification at that time.

Mike Denapole gave NYSSA report including the Easter Seals Ride and NYSSA club memberships for this year.

Motion – Jeff Johnson

Second – Pat Deyle – to donate $250 to the Easter Seals Ride

Bill Weakley reported on the status of the Mud Lake trail.

Jesse Davis reported the Ride for Missing and Exploited Children going as planned and would accept any help the day of the event.

Motion – Pat Deyle

Second – Bill Weakley – to donate $200 to the ride.

Jeff Johnson has the NYSSA 50/25/25 raffle tickets available. Winner gets 50% Club that sells winner 25% NYSSA 25%. To be deawn at the 2003 Forum this spring.

HCSTTA to sponsor a law enforcement day at the beginning of next season.

Motion – Bill Weakley

Second – Jesse Davis – to adjourn

12-11-02 minutes

2002-12-11T15:46:00.000-05:00

Minutes from HCSTTA Meeting - Herkimer County BOCES 12-11-02

Members present –

Bob Shaver, Frank & Ruth Boepple, Pat Deyle, Bill Clary, Ted Kozenewski, Marty Bull, Ron Davies, Randy Kast, Lenny Mosher, Chuck Robinson, Bill Weakley, Jesse Davis, Mike Denapole.

Meeting called to order at 7:13 pm by VP Bob Shaver

Last meetings minutes were distributed with the meeting notice as there were no questions Pat Deyle made the motion to accept the minutes 2nd by Randy Kast.

Treasurers Report – Pat handed the financial sheet out and explained it. Checking balance $509.41, savings balance $11,983.81 our total net worth is $12,493.22. Motion made by Ron Davies, 2nd by Frank B. to accept the treasurer’s report.

NYSSA News – Marty Bull gave us an overview of the last NYSSA meeting. The next meeting is the 2nd Saturday in January in Lake George. The following topics were discussed.

NYS Grooming Show – Jan. 3 & 4 at Salisbury
Groomer train the trainers workshop Dec. 18th 6:00 pm at the Little Falls Best Western.
Proposal by the NYSSA lobbyist on the gas tax.
High snowfall areas. Herk. Co. has 157 miles in the high snowfall area and qualifies for $15,700 which will be distributed to Forestport, Ohio & Salisbury(these are the clubs in the high snowfall area)
NYSSA Magazine – Canterbury Press has approached NYSSA about doing the magazine. Hopefully the first copy will be out just before the NYSSA Forum in April.
Trail Insurance – The Northfield Agency has pulled out of NY due to clubs submitting multiple applications with varying info(# of members, miles of trails, road crossings etc) clubs were advised that if you got a quote to pay the premium asap.

Herkimer County – Pat briefed us on what was going on as far as Herk. Co. helping us out with our insurance costs. He submitted all the info from the other counties that were helping out the clubs to Herk. Co. but still hasn’t heard anything. Clubs should try to get in touch with their legislators to let them know what’s going on.

NYSSA Business Memberships – Mike Denapole talked about getting each club to get at least 2 NYSSA business memberships from their area. He also talked about setting up different levels of HCSTTA business memberships. He will get together all the info & send it to each club.

Destination Signs – Jeff J. was submitting the order.

HCCC Trailhead – Landowner problems, Jesse Davis & Marty Bull will get together to talk about a possible solution.

Snowmobile Safety Courses – short discussion on this subject.

Railroad from Winfield to Chepachet – problems with landowners, railroad lawyers & Pat D. are trying to iron out the problem.

New Business –

Jesse Davis is setting up a ride to benefit the Missing & Exploited Children’s Fund for Feb 15th. He would like to see 300- 500 riders. Ride would end up at the Salisbury Ridgerunners Clubhouse. More info to follow.

HCSTTA Meetings will be held the 2nd Wednesday of each month at Herkimer County BOCES in the conference room till April. Meeting Dates Jan. 8th, Feb. 12th, March 12th and April 9th .

New club in Schuyler is the North Valley Riders – Jim LaFountain is their President.

Coming Events –

January 11th – Exeter Poker Run, Salisbury Ridgerunners Races.

January 18th – Ohio Ridgeriders Poker Run, Shumaker Mtn Climbers Poker Run, East Herkimer Pancake Breakfast.

Meeting Adjourned 8:57 pm motion by Frank B. 2nd by Ruth B.